Elon Buys Twitter [LOCKED DUE TO POLITICS AND INSULTS]

[TheLastStarfighter]

Yes, of course we do.

That doesn't mean we don't have standards at all, though. We all define murder differently, too. That doesn't mean we disallow murder cases.

And the Babylon Bee violated the Terms of Service. It's not funny, or a joke, to the people being abused or killed. And it's not a joke when it's exactly what the abusers are piling onto people seriously.

-Crissa

Yes, a significant portion of the population define abortion as murder. That doesn't mean we should ban discussion of abortion, promotion of abortion options or humor that makes fun of anti-abortion activists. Or does it? I have no doubt that Babylon's joke would be hurtful to many people. Are blonde jokes hurtful to blonde people and/or women for reinforcing stereotypes? In Canada we have "Newfie" jokes which are common and always feature a person from the province of Newfoundland as being stupid/backward. Newfoundlanders do not like the jokes, or the term Newfie. There are redneck jokes. Religious jokes. Racial jokes. Where is the line that cannot be crossed?

 

[CyberGus]

So does this count as Tesla spending money on advertising ?

 

[Crissa]

Where is the line that cannot be crossed?

The line at which people are being discriminated, assaulted, vandalized, killed?

As your example... Rednecks aren't being assaulted on their way to work, or denied equal access to courts, jobs, and schools. And they aren't being killed for who they are or where they were born.

Seems pretty damn simple.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Should have known this thread would turn into a politics dumpster fire quickly.

 

[JBee]

Ongoing problem that people lack their own conviction and discernment and are triggered by certain statements as a herd response = "politics".

Politics (from Greek: Πολιτικά, politiká, 'affairs of the cities') is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations among individuals, such as the distribution of resources or status.

Easy solution: Abolish free speech, then we can only talk politics! lol

 

[Ogre]

I’m not ‘triggered’ by politics.

It just makes me sad seeing how stupid people can get when they argue about certain topics. It’s hard to respect people when they turn into idiots as soon as some topics come up.

My faith in humanity is thin enough so I avoid politics.

 

[JBee]

I’m not ‘triggered’ by politics.

It just makes me sad seeing how stupid people can get when they argue about certain topics. It’s hard to respect people when they turn into idiots as soon as some topics come up.

My faith in humanity is thin enough so I avoid politics.

The irony is that talking about free speech triggers political voices that then close down any speech here on this forum by shutting down the thread.

This is not humanity, it is the absence of it.

 

[Newton]

People can say whatever the hell they want. be it the internet or a public space. If I , or u dont like it, too bad. But Twitter PrElon didnt allow this as far as i know example: banning trumps account for spreading lies.

But if people are being assaulted or targeted in someway it needs to be moderated and prevented.

the net is like a 4th dimension, both a time capsule and a reflection and melting pot of current views (at least of those participating on it) Thus new laws need to be made.
Hopefully Elon will realize this and not JUST make it about "well if its legal in public spaces, it should be legal on twitter"

 

[Bill906]

Should have known this thread would turn into a politics dumpster fire quickly.

How could any discussion about Twitter NOT turn into a politics dumpster fire?

 

[rr6013]

People can say whatever the hell they want. be it the internet or a public space. If I , or u dont like it, too bad. But Twitter PrElon didnt allow this as far as i know example: banning trumps account for spreading lies.

But if people are being assaulted or targeted in someway it needs to be moderated and prevented.

the net is like a 4th dimension, both a time capsule and a reflection and melting pot of current views (at least of those participating on it) Thus new laws need to be made.
Hopefully Elon will realize this and not JUST make it about "well if its legal in public spaces, it should be legal on twitter"

@Newton, you are witness to a Twitter emergence as neither Cathedral nor Bazaar but commons. A commons eclipsing media, politics and meaning as “kind” of platform but space that is disintermediated by design for human voiced narrative, as in mano mano (face-to-face).
Persons able to voice bots, avatars, Associations, pseudonyms, etc…who have, for so long, enjoyed Twitter ‘handle‘ anonymity, henceforth will fail to clear, forge or manipulate authentication thresholds Twitter is set to implement for tiered access. A step-up to the microphone analogy ‘state your name’ protocol or shout from the bleachers faceless section or protest outside the fence en masse with all other non-authenticated nameless masses.

No laws necessary in cyberspace. Doxxing and hate crimes follow into RL where consequences exist by jurisdiction

 

[JBee]

How could any discussion about Twitter NOT turn into a politics dumpster fire?

So its not EMs fault after all? Must be a virus then.

Virus;
a piece of code which is capable of copying itself and typically has a detrimental effect, such as corrupting the system or destroying data.

 

[Crissa]

No laws necessary in cyberspace. Doxxing and hate crimes follow into RL where consequences exist by jurisdiction

Bull crap. Trolls and bots steal time, bandwidth, and processor cycles. They interrupt conversations, they confuse and mislead people into injure, and they do so anonymously or through intermediaries. They push scams and phishing expeditions and steal and reprint and slander.

They need consequences fit for the damages. If no one's injured, then it should be light; a muting, a reduced range of broadcast, targeted banning. When it gets more serious, it ramps into real money, real-world consequences.

It's not so fun when it's you that gets targeted.

-Crissa

 

[JBee]

Bull crap. Trolls and bots steal time, bandwidth, and processor cycles. They interrupt conversations, they confuse and mislead people into injure, and they do so anonymously or through intermediaries. They push scams and phishing expeditions and steal and reprint and slander.

They need consequences fit for the damages. If no one's injured, then it should be light; a muting, a reduced range of broadcast, targeted banning. When it gets more serious, it ramps into real money, real-world consequences.

It's not so fun when it's you that gets targeted.

-Crissa

Not sure how you came to that conclusion, maybe re-read the post? He wants Twitter users to only be able to post with ID and not anonymously outside of reach of the law.

 

[Throwcomputer]

So Tesla just went from spending 0 on advertising.. to spending $44B. haha.

Oh and totally free speech... except that one kid who wanted a car in exchange for taking his elon flight tracker account down. That kid's account is cancelled. So he wouldn't give the kid a 50k car.. but he'd spend 44b to shut that kids account down in the name of free speech! Can't wait to read about that act of protecting free speech...

lol

 

[Throwcomputer]

Not sure how you came to that conclusion, maybe re-read the post? He wants Twitter users to only be able to post with ID and not anonymously outside of reach of the law.

Yeah.. translation.. "Free speech", in exchange for global ID tracking (blue verified mark) database that EM controls. Thats what I read. hahaha.

So glad I never gave a crap about Twitter and have never participated.