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  1. Throwcomputer

    ??Q3 2023 Results Livestream ? -- Complete!! (Recap inside)

    yeah. aka the battery production plant and lithium refinery wont be running full speed till 2025
  2. Throwcomputer

    ??Q3 2023 Results Livestream ? -- Complete!! (Recap inside)

    Damn.. at 43 yr old I been counting myself lucky I'd see my truck not too long away everytime one of the guys on here in their 70s and 80's says they not sure if they'll make it to get theirs. After this statement, now I'm looking like another 5-6 years wait on top of the 2 already waited. Now...
  3. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Btw, the del Mar has a secret driving mode you can only activate through a key pattern, called the flat tracker mode. It basically turns off all safety features, traction control, and wheelie prevention features, so that you can go all out. Didn't know about that when I tested, so I'm curious...
  4. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    I wasn't sold on the del Mar until I rode it in July. It changed my mind and even got me to upgrade to the more expense launch edition. It is very comfortable and easy to maneuver. It's a bit higher stance than I would like.. 5'8" and I'm on the balls of my toes, but that only matters at a...
  5. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Sure the specs could be fudged, but given the del mar 0-60 time was initially stated as 3.5 sec and when they released the finalized specs including final ranges, they updated the 0-60 to 3 sec. So i'm guessing they are as accurate to the same degree as zero. I've ridden the LW1 which has a...
  6. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Zero SR.. 74 hp 122 ft lbs torque 104 mph max 0-60: 3.61 sec weight: 414 lbs del mar 84 hp 194 ft. lbs torque 103 mph max 0-60: 3 sec weight: 436 lbs This is where my comment that the performance is better on the del mar. Its got a ton more torque, more hp and faster acceleration. But the...
  7. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Zero just dropped prices on all their models by 1k on the low end models and 4k on the high end models in response to livewire del Mar starting deliveries. Zero SR is now 17k with twice the range but less performance than the del Mar at 15.5k. the heat is on for livewire to respond and try to...
  8. Throwcomputer

    Hertz Renting?

    One of my neighbors was just telling me they have rented a model 3 a few times from hertz. I believe they told me that they provide LVL1 cable and maybe even some adapter connectors for other types of chargers. Don't quote me on the adapters, but Im pretty positive they said the LVL 1 charging...
  9. Throwcomputer

    10 millionth 4680 cell produced at GigaTexas

    Do you think the current battery cathode factories come online and these numbers remain similar? What is the current state of progress on the cathode factory? Nearly done? Your comments will be outdated in a few months when everything comes online right at the same time CTs start rolling off...
  10. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Well knowing this now, the S2 Del Mar has only L1 or L2 charging, so I assume the hardware and software required for that switch between AC and DC charging is not present in that bike. It's kinda pointless to use a supercharger with a converter magic box to convert the DC back to AC for the bike...
  11. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Oh yeah I didn't even realize that destination chargers were ac and superchargers were DC! Two years of actively paying attention to ev industry and I never really looked close enough at the charging aspect of it! Obvious how it wouldn't work plugging one into the other now that you point that...
  12. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Because this is in the general automotive and off topic section of the forum. And it's related enough being focused on ev motorcycles. If it weren't appropriate, they wouldn't have a general automotive and off topic section! There are enough of us on here who either own or are interested in...
  13. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Crissa, or anyone else with experience.... I'm curious how charging works on a super charger if you have a lower speed charging vehicle? The Del Mar has level 2 charging, so I assume there are free public level 2 chargers which are the ones you see in parking garages or parking lots at...
  14. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    The lifespan of an electric bike taken on a trip like LONG WAY UP cannot really be compared to the lifespan of same bike simply riding a mix of highway and city commuting on paved roads for an hour or so twice a day. I love those series, but they are a highly specific and unusual use case, my...
  15. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Rode this for over an hour yesterday, with a half hour ride on the Livewire One in-between the Del Mar rides (for comparison). It is a bit tall seat height, but its really comfortable and fast/easy to maneuver. Silent compared to the Livewire One. Speed/Acceleration comparison between the...
  16. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    Unfortunately they are so low production numbers that there is zero aftermarket accessories for them, unlike the rest of Harleys lineup which has decades of aftermarket suppliers and bountiful options for every model.i don't think this is going to change soon. They sold a whopping 597 livewire...
  17. Throwcomputer

    UPDATED PRICING (Post Inflation fears): Harley Livewire S2 Del Mar launching today at 12:40 CST

    So, Harley must have gotten a lot of crap from people like me who were offended by their jacking up of the non-limited edition pricing over their initial announced pricing range, or must have gotten much lower than expected reservations, cause they just updated pricing again...
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