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Do we think the Space XTMobile thing will translate to always-on data for the Cybertruck? Maybe not for Spotify but it's nice to have map data in the bush
For sure. Unless you wannas talk about Hunter Biden's laptop. 'Cause the FBI is very obviously pro-Dem. Apolitically speaking, of course.
 

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Well they etablished their level of tech in the first Mad Max in 1979. The premise was basically based on the oil crisis of 1973 in Australia, violent fights in gas cues and the (now prescient) idea that governments would not build out alternative energy infrastructure until it was too late, and what society could crumble to as a result. So the technology is kind of frozen in the late 70s in that world.
 

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Well they etablished their level of tech in the first Mad Max in 1979. The premise was basically based on the oil crisis of 1973 in Australia, violent fights in gas cues and the (now prescient) idea that governments would not build out alternative energy infrastructure until it was too late, and what society could crumble to as a result. So the technology is kind of frozen in the late 70s in that world.
I think solar wasn't really a thing in the 70's yet. More of a novelty seeing PV comes from waste silicon ingots from semi conductor manufacturing which was only on the rise then. Wind and hydro were available and switchgear was mechanical, not electronic.
Crazy what they did without bits and bytes of electronic memory.
 
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They also had some sort of catastrophic climate change that ruined the seas as well, which is why no one lived on them.

-Crissa
Yes they did! Oh wait, no, that was "Waterworld"
 

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There's a little button on the side of your phone to press if you want to be unconnected ^-^

-Crissa
I like to use my phone as a clock, compass, measuring device, etc. But there is another button on the screen that has an airplane icon that also will allow me to be unconnected. Either button can be used very conveniently.

Of course, all bets will be off once we all have neuralink installed. Once it's installed, i'm not sure I will want to get shut off.
 

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Once people recognise the source of fear, being not knowing the truth and believing the lies, then we'll just be left with sorting out the good ideas from the bad. ?
In my experience, it is possible you are giving the general populace too much credit.

While it's true that a number (somewhat large even) of people do come to such a recognization, there are always a ton of younger followup people or slower contemporary people in the crowd that have not yet come to the same realization. And after a while, some of those that had the recognization don't see anything changing and end up not caring any more because the situation seems unchangeable.

Given all that, I'd say that your idea of
we'll just be left with sorting out the good ideas from the bad
is much over simplified.
 

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In my experience, it is possible you are giving the general populace too much credit.

While it's true that a number (somewhat large even) of people do come to such a recognization, there are always a ton of younger followup people or slower contemporary people in the crowd that have not yet come to the same realization. And after a while, some of those that had the recognization don't see anything changing and end up not caring any more because the situation seems unchangeable.

Given all that, I'd say that your idea of is much over simplified.
I never said it was easy, just that we should do it.

I suppose that is the thing about ideas. They are both inter-generational and forgettable.

Our biggest issue with them is that we don't always have control over which ideas we are programmed with to start with. Those "boot routines" really should be formed in the early stages of development, in such a way they create a foundation for growth.

That intellectual "seed" is what I would like to see manifested, not just in schools and universities, but also by parents, families and communities.

EM posted this a while back, and I liked that he shared the perspective.

 

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I finally got around to watching "Max Max: Fury Road", and I kept thinking "but where are all the Cybertrucks". I mean, not a single EV anywhere? Hmmph.

Then I started watching the "Halo" adaptation, which is set centuries in the future, and people are still driving with ICE engines. wtf
On the other hand, it looks like the past isn't gonna be everything they said it was. Does this make sense to anyone?
 

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On the other hand, it looks like the past isn't gonna be everything they said it was. Does this make sense to anyone?
His-story always depends on who writes it?

Everyone has their own perception of the passage of events, some people perspectives align, others don't. As such his-stories can differ.
 

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Well they etablished their level of tech in the first Mad Max in 1979. The premise was basically based on the oil crisis of 1973 in Australia, violent fights in gas cues and the (now prescient) idea that governments would not build out alternative energy infrastructure until it was too late, and what society could crumble to as a result. So the technology is kind of frozen in the late 70s in that world.
I found it ironic that in a future where fuel was dammed hard to come by all the warring factions drove the most fuel sucking vehicles imaginable.
In reality they would all prob be on mopeds or driving beater compacts with 4 banger engines but that wouldn't be as cool.
I used to read a series of post apocalyptic books where the main character drove a motorcycle with a 12 cylinder Lycoming tank engine in it.
Suspension of disbelief is sometimes hard.
 

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I found it ironic that in a future where fuel was dammed hard to come by all the warring factions drove the most fuel sucking vehicles imaginable.
In reality they would all prob be on mopeds or driving beater compacts with 4 banger engines but that wouldn't be as cool.
I used to read a series of post apocalyptic books where the main character drove a motorcycle with a 12 cylinder Lycoming tank engine in it.
Suspension of disbelief is sometimes hard.
Lol Just imagine Mad Max driving a Prius...what a great show that would be!
 

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I think solar wasn't really a thing in the 70's yet. More of a novelty seeing PV comes from waste silicon ingots from semi conductor manufacturing which was only on the rise then. Wind and hydro were available and switchgear was mechanical, not electronic.
Crazy what they did without bits and bytes of electronic memory.
I built a solar-powered AM radio in 1972 using a 101-in-one electronics kit that my elementary school had purchased for students to experiment with, the kind with resistors, capacitors, transistors and a solar cell that could be connected together with short little wires between the spring terminals. It even had a very rudimentary integrated circuit mounted in the very center that could be incorporated into your circuits instead of the battery.

I was amazed when I discovered my radio worked using the earphone even before I connected the solar cell. I thought I had invented a magic radio that worked with no power source and spent 5 minutes checking all my connections to ensure it had no source of power. My teacher burst my bubble when he explained I had created a crystal radio that was powered by the energy contained in the radio transmissions.

Solar cells were more than a novelty in the 1970's, in fact, the satellite Vanguard 1, launched in 1958, was powered for a number of years by solar cells. The first solar cell was invented in 1883 by Charles Fritts by depositing a coating of gold over a thin layer of selenium.
 

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I think it's more to do with frontier lifestyle when it comes to sci-fi. The infrastructure needed to charge an electric vehicle at a remote location is more costly and takes longer than a Jerry can.

Now if you have a portable radioisotope generator in the hood with enough shielding and output, you don't even need a battery.
 
 
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