The Anger of Tesla Fans Is Becoming a Problem

[TruckElectric]

Funny how the 'Thread-Starter' had to put something right after on the end of my last post ...

? Calm down. There is no conspiracy; it was mere coincidence.

 

[LDRHAWKE]

? Calm down. There is no conspiracy; it was mere coincidence.

After 10 months of coincidence in this Nation that no longer flys with those that have half a brain.

 

[Sirfun]

After 10 months of coincidence in this Nation that no longer flys with those that have half a brain.

And Tesla fans are a cult? Blind faith in a leader, now that's a cult.
Just because people like Tesla, doesn't mean faith in Elon.

 

[ÆCIII]

? Calm down. There is no conspiracy; it was mere coincidence.

Agreed, my reply was too soon before examining previous post intentions thoroughly.

However one thing is clear - Tesla has been able to succeed and excel in it's current business model and innovative path - because of it's refusal to entangle with dealership associations, unions, and bloated expensive media advertising. Tesla has proved this for 18 years since their start in 2003.

The very reason all these other OEMs are not agile or free innovate or to build new factories like Tesla is doing, is because of their (legacy auto's) entanglements with dealer associations, unions, and media advertising. So, even though they were bigger than Tesla and still sell more cars (but not for much longer), they are still constrained and strangled by all these communistic relationships holding them back.

If Tesla is this successful after 18 years without any unions, there is obviously no need for unions and that very example is what unions are terrified of because Tesla exemplifies an awesome business model which unions are not a part of. This is why union operatives are desperately trying to infiltrate Tesla, even some of them within this forum. Union infiltration of Tesla, would be the start of corrupt political lobbying and manipulations from those same union operatives that would be within Tesla, and I totally respect Elon and Tesla for wanting to have None of these implications of union corruption.

If unions make corrupt political donations, where do you think that money comes from? The employees that would have to pay unions dues for one, or the money comes from investment options by employees under unions. Either way, the unions just want to use the employees as pawns to collect money for a political lobbying power. Then they turn around and urge employees to vote a certain way. So the employees give to unions hoping for a better work environment, but then the union turns around and does what they want politically regardless of an individual employee's preference - again, pure corruption.

Union operatives are just trying to get a leech connection into the Tesla workforce, to begin siphoning money, just in the way that communist entities do.

Tesla has done awesome without unions for 18 years, and if the Tesla workforce wasn't happy, it would be apparent in their production or cause lacking success. But the exact opposite has continually been proven with Tesla. Tesla employees are obviously hard working, but that's what makes Tesla's accomplishments all the more rewarding even though some spoiled elites or basement dwellers will never understand that.

It's perfectly clear that Union operatives are attempting to infiltrate Tesla, because they know that their stagnant legacy auto companies are about to fall and they'll have no place to go and be no more (just like the legacy auto companies). If unions are so good, why haven't they urged legacy auto to get on the right track with agile innovation to go more in on development of EVs? Because it's a conflict of their own interests, so they are helping to pull big auto-down as long as they can hang on. But they know that path is going to crash and that's why their aggressively trying to exert political power to be able forcibly jump to Tesla.

Tesla doesn't want them, as most Tesla employees are to smart for union propaganda and political entanglements. Elon has been very honorable and trustworthy to employees as long as they are genuinely loyal and hard working. Unions can never touch the honor or integrity of Elon Musk, which is why legacy OEM auto companies, even with all their large sizes might, have remained stagnant and arrogant these past 10 years, even while Elon was respectfully encouraging them to follow the right path. Instead, UAW companies have snubbed or discounted Elon.

But the secret is, that big auto all this time has never really been that 'big', because if you peel away the fat and adipose tissue of media advertising, unions, and dealership associations, those actual companies at the core processes were not that 'big'. But they let too much greed and politics get entangled into their business model, thinking that customers would never notice - but then Tesla came along ...

Unions are too sleazy for Tesla's ethical and quality standards, and Tesla certainly does not deserve unions. Unions are obviously stupid - because if they were smart they would never let someone as corrupt as Biden be their mouthpiece. But they don't see that because they are corrupt too. If the UAW were smart, the first thing they would've done is come out and say publicly something like this, "Yes, we are at a cross-roods and some tough decisions going forward are upon us, but we choose to refrain from offering any political endorsements or accepting any invites at this time..." When any entity would be dumb enough to use Biden to endorse or promote them, their credibility is just going to sink further, everyone's going to remember it, and it's never going to age well. When those companies accepted Biden's invite, it just made them look weak and cowardly, unable to stand on their own without corrupt political help. Again, that's not going to age well, but for a long time now legacy auto and the UAW hasn't been really interested in anything that would 'age well' or any healthy long-term strategy at all. They've just been interested in corrupt political lifeboats or bail-outs.

 

[Crissa]

The 'Realism' of Tesla Fans is Becoming a Problem ...

- only for Communists...

Can we not have this sort of misapplication of words? We shouldn't encourage those sorts of flights of fancy?

-Crissa

 

[LDRHAWKE]

Agreed, my reply was too soon before examining previous post intentions thoroughly.

However one thing is clear - Tesla has been able to succeed and excel in it's current business model and innovative path - because of it's refusal to entangle with dealership associations, unions, and bloated expensive media advertising. Tesla has proved this for 18 years since their start in 2003.

The very reason all these other OEMs are not agile or free innovate or to build new factories like Tesla is doing, is because of their (legacy auto's) entanglements with dealer associations, unions, and media advertising. So, even though they were bigger than Tesla and still sell more cars (but not for much longer), they are still constrained and strangled by all these communistic relationships holding them back.

If Tesla is this successful after 18 years without any unions, there is obviously no need for unions and that very example is what unions are terrified of because Tesla exemplifies an awesome business model which unions are not a part of. This is why union operatives are desperately trying to infiltrate Tesla, even some of them within this forum. Union infiltration of Tesla, would be the start of corrupt political lobbying and manipulations from those same union operatives that would be within Tesla, and I totally respect Elon and Tesla for wanting to have None of these implications of union corruption.

If unions make corrupt political donations, where do you think that money comes from? The employees that would have to pay unions dues for one, or the money comes from investment options by employees under unions. Either way, the unions just want to use the employees as pawns to collect money for a political lobbying power. Then they turn around and urge employees to vote a certain way. So the employees give to unions hoping for a better work environment, but then the union turns around and does what they want politically regardless of an individual employee's preference - again, pure corruption.

Union operatives are just trying to get a leech connection into the Tesla workforce, to begin siphoning money, just in the way that communist entities do.

Tesla has done awesome without unions for 18 years, and if the Tesla workforce wasn't happy, it would be apparent in their production or cause lacking success. But the exact opposite has continually been proven with Tesla. Tesla employees are obviously hard working, but that's what makes Tesla's accomplishments all the more rewarding even though some spoiled elites or basement dwellers will never understand that.

It's perfectly clear that Union operatives are attempting to infiltrate Tesla, because they know that their stagnant legacy auto companies are about to fall and they'll have no place to go and be no more (just like the legacy auto companies). If unions are so good, why haven't they urged legacy auto to get on the right track with agile innovation to go more in on development of EVs? Because it's a conflict of their own interests, so they are helping to pull big auto-down as long as they can hang on. But they know that path is going to crash and that's why their aggressively trying to exert political power to be able forcibly jump to Tesla.

Tesla doesn't want them, as most Tesla employees are to smart for union propaganda and political entanglements. Elon has been very honorable and trustworthy to employees as long as they are genuinely loyal and hard working. Unions can never touch the honor or integrity of Elon Musk, which is why legacy OEM auto companies, even with all their large sizes might, have remained stagnant and arrogant these past 10 years, even while Elon was respectfully encouraging them to follow the right path. Instead, UAW companies have snubbed or discounted Elon.

But the secret is, that big auto all this time has never really been that 'big', because if you peel away the fat and adipose tissue of media advertising, unions, and dealership associations, those actual companies at the core processes were not that 'big'. But they let too much greed and politics get entangled into their business model, thinking that customers would never notice - but then Tesla came along ...

Unions are too sleazy for Tesla's ethical and quality standards, and Tesla certainly does not deserve unions. Unions are obviously stupid - because if they were smart they would never let someone as corrupt as Biden be their mouthpiece. But they don't see that because they are corrupt too. If the UAW were smart, the first thing they would've done is come out and say publicly something like this, "Yes, we are at a cross-roods and some tough decisions going forward are upon us, but we choose to refrain from offering any political endorsements or accepting any invites at this time..." When any entity would be dumb enough to use Biden to endorse or promote them, their credibility is just going to sink further, everyone's going to remember it, and it's never going to age well. When those companies accepted Biden's invite, it just made them look weak and cowardly, unable to stand on their own without corrupt political help. Again, that's not going to age well, but for a long time now legacy auto and the UAW hasn't been really interested in anything that would 'age well' or any healthy long-term strategy at all. They've just been interested in corrupt political lifeboats or bail-outs.

What I find most amazing about Musk is not simply what he has accomplished, but that he has been able to instill this open creative way of thinking into so many employees. One man could not have accomplished this without doing so. We are watching a leader reap the harvest he has sown in men.

If we could only clone him to lead and rethink our public educational system. Maybe he can be talked into it if he ever retires.

 

[flowerlandfilms]

The 'Realism' of Tesla Fans is Becoming a Problem ...

- only for Communists and the criminal enterprise axis of controlled Biden, imploding media losing advertising revenue, and big-pharma which as been 'pulled in' to the enterprise because desperately imploding losers attempt to consolidate power by posturing and huddling together.

Those of you who thought Biden was actually for the environment by your emotional research all the way to the tip of your nose, and whatever the media fed you - welcome to a reality dose of communism and the corruption it brings.

Let's hope you learn from it instead of searching for denial mechanisms. The Truth will Set You Free.

Shouldn't you be on a subway platform yelling at passers by?
In 1962?

 

[LDRHAWKE]

Shouldn't you be on a subway platform yelling at passers by?
In 1962?

If I am correct, Australia didn’t form the Communist Party running your country now until 1964.

 

[firsttruck]

Agreed, my reply was too soon before examining previous post intentions thoroughly.

However one thing is clear - Tesla has been able to succeed and excel in it's current business model and innovative path - because of it's refusal to entangle with dealership associations, unions, and bloated expensive media advertising. Tesla has proved this for 18 years since their start in 2003.
....

It is funny how every time there is a failure in a feature of capitalism all of a sudden that attribute of capitalism is re-labeled as communistic/socialism.

The local dealer networks were never communistic/socialism but are crony capitalism and local capitalistic monopolies.

And it is ridiculous to label bloated expensive media advertising as communistic/socialism instead of it true nature as capitalistic media companies chasing the all might dollar regards of the truth or needs of society.

Past history is no guarantee of future performance. Just because Tesla was able to grow while the legacy ICE auto & fossil fuel establishments were mostly sleeping does not guarantee that Tesla (especially in USA) will easily overcome obstacles of these legacy industries, their lobbyists and government assistants.

 

[FutureTrunks]

I mean Tesla doesn’t necessarily have the best reputation…….

 

[SwampNut]

I run into this constantly, just happened yesterday:

1. Non-EV owner with only a tiny bit of knowledge posts anti-EV hit piece.

2. I point out the fact-based errors, without opinion.

3. FANBOI!!!!!!!!!

 

[firsttruck]

I run into this constantly, just happened yesterday:

1. Non-EV owner with only a tiny bit of knowledge posts anti-EV hit piece.

2. I point out the fact-based errors, without opinion.

3. FANBOI!!!!!!!!!

The usually media thumb on the scale.
I noticed it the first time over 30 years ago with the 1990 - 2002 PC OS wars (microsoft windows vs IBM OS/2).
Media always wrote of fans or enthusiasts when referring to users of Microsoft windows
but media wrote fanatics or cult when referring to users of IBM OS/2 even when the users was experienced business professionals trying to implement reliable computing infrastructure.

Today the media treats Linux users and BEV owners just like they did OS/2 users.

 

[chalupacabre]

Say what? ?




So I guess Cybertruck Owners Forum and it's members are a cult? Hmmmm, okaaaay.

Cultish?

 

[flowerlandfilms]

If I am correct, Australia didn’t form the Communist Party running your country now until 1964.

You mean the conservative party that currently runs the country?
Yes that's right, the Liberal party here is conservative.
Don't let your brain melt all over the keyboard.

 

[LDRHAWKE]

You mean the conservative party that currently runs the country?
Yes that's right, the Liberal party here is conservative.
Don't let your brain melt all over the keyboard.

No worries, mate, she’ll be right….?