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Tesla seeks approval for sensor that could detect child left in hot cars

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Tesla seeks approval for sensor that could detect child left in hot cars

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tesla Inc. asked the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) for approval to market a short-range interactive motion-sensing device that could help prevent children from being left behind in hot cars and boost theft-prevention systems.

The California automaker wants permission to use unlicensed millimeter-wave sensors that would operate at higher power levels than allowed under existing rules.

Tesla’s device would utilize four transmit and three receive antennas driven by a radar front-end unit. Tesla says millimeter wave radar technology has advantages over other sensing systems like camera-based or in-seat occupant detection systems.

The radar-based system “provides depth perception and can ‘see’ through soft materials, such as a blanket covering a child in a child restraint.”

Tesla added it “can differentiate between a child and an object left on the seat, reducing the likelihood of false alarms” and can detect “micromovements like breathing patterns and heart rates, neither of which can be captured by cameras or in-seat sensors alone.”

Radar imaging, Tesla adds, can assess body size to optimize airbag deployment in a crash depending on whether an adult or child is seated, which it says would be more effective than existing weight-based, in-seat sensor systems.

It would also more accurately determine when to engage seat belt reminders.

The FCC is seeking public comment on Tesla’s request through Sept. 21.

Tesla notes the FCC in 2018 granted a similar request for a device of Alphabet Inc’s Google that works under identical operating parameters.

Valeo North America submitted a request in March to the FCC for its in-vehicle safety-related monitoring device that would also detect children in cars. The request is pending.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says more than 50 children died when left behind in hot cars in both 2019 and 2018. Of those incidents, 54% occurred because someone forgot a child.

Source: REUTERS
 

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That would be quite the innovation and safety feature. Sad that we need such a thing.
 

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That would be quite the innovation and safety feature. Sad that we need such a thing.
It's more the result of massive numbers: Given enough events, the unlikely is likely to happen at least a few times. Have a one in a million chance of allergy? Well, if you expose a few hundred million people...

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Tesla seeks approval for sensor that could detect child left in hot cars

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Tesla Inc. asked the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) for approval to market a short-range interactive motion-sensing device that could help prevent children from being left behind in hot cars and boost theft-prevention systems.

The California automaker wants permission to use unlicensed millimeter-wave sensors that would operate at higher power levels than allowed under existing rules.

Tesla’s device would utilize four transmit and three receive antennas driven by a radar front-end unit. Tesla says millimeter wave radar technology has advantages over other sensing systems like camera-based or in-seat occupant detection systems.

The radar-based system “provides depth perception and can ‘see’ through soft materials, such as a blanket covering a child in a child restraint.”

Tesla added it “can differentiate between a child and an object left on the seat, reducing the likelihood of false alarms” and can detect “micromovements like breathing patterns and heart rates, neither of which can be captured by cameras or in-seat sensors alone.”

Radar imaging, Tesla adds, can assess body size to optimize airbag deployment in a crash depending on whether an adult or child is seated, which it says would be more effective than existing weight-based, in-seat sensor systems.

It would also more accurately determine when to engage seat belt reminders.

The FCC is seeking public comment on Tesla’s request through Sept. 21.

Tesla notes the FCC in 2018 granted a similar request for a device of Alphabet Inc’s Google that works under identical operating parameters.

Valeo North America submitted a request in March to the FCC for its in-vehicle safety-related monitoring device that would also detect children in cars. The request is pending.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says more than 50 children died when left behind in hot cars in both 2019 and 2018. Of those incidents, 54% occurred because someone forgot a child.

Source: REUTERS
Many years ago while the wifey was a student at the University of South Florida they needed guinea pigs to test cooling garments to be used in extremely high temp working environments, me thinks she just wanted to collect on my life insurance policy so she "volunteered" me. I was walking on a treadmill inside a "walk-in" Easy Bake Oven ( a converted freezer room) at about 130 degrees, sometimes for 2 hours. The trials went on for about a year and I was one of the favorite test specimens since I was a little more "experienced in life". I often considered bringing my lunch to warm up while I walked.

The research professor whom I was working for shared that he had been called once to testify in a negligence lawsuit where a fella had built his own "sauna". The rocket scientist had failed to have a power shut-off inside his sauna room or a trustworthy door latch, you guessed it, he cooked himself. He said it was pretty ugly what the guy had been through the last moments of his existence on this earth, his body was bruised up from the convulsions from the high heat.

After many months of my little low-level hot box episodes, I have immense respect for the dangers of hot cars. I grieves me when I hear about this needless tragedy that occurs each year and believe me it does not take long to take a life. I carry spring-loaded pin punches (available at Lowes- sheet metal tool ) with a long section of orange engineer tape tied to it stashed in my glove box in my cars for quick access in an emergency. It's the easiest way to pop a window. I applaud this technology and hope they will license it to all other auto manufacturers quickly. Worth every cent.
 
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After many months of my little low-level hot box episodes, I have immense respect for the dangers of hot cars. I grieves me when I hear about this needless tragedy that occurs each year and believe me it does not take long to take a life. I carry spring-loaded pin punches (available at Lowes- sheet metal tool ) with a long section of orange engineer tape tied to it stashed in my glove box in my cars for quick access in an emergency. It's the easiest way to pop a window. I applaud this technology and hope they will license it to all other auto manufacturers quickly. Worth every cent.
It's going to be a bit tough breaking the windows of the CT in such cases. Guess that would be one draw back of the Armor Glass.
 

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It's going to be a bit tough breaking the windows of the CT in such cases. Guess that would be one draw back of the Armor Glass.
That is a very real two-edged sword to ponder. I wonder what's in the works for emergency egress if the doors are fouled and it's time to bail in a hurry. Exploding bolts to "blow the hatch"???????
 

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My guess is the sensor alerts you on your phone and you pop the hatch remotely as you run like an Olympic sprinter to get your kid out.
 

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Next, cars will have a sensor to check if the driver has any common sense.
 

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Don’t forget about your pet dog in a hot vehicle.
 

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Big Brother says... It's all for the little children.
Just cause I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not all after me!
I thought putting my smartphone in a spy bag made me invisible.
Now my Cybertruck can read the individuals in the car and their temperature. Cognitive cameras can tell if I'm sleepy and programmed mapping knows where I'm going before I arrive. Voice recognition is the all invasive record keeper.
I assume overriding doorlocks complete my delivery to the overlords should my actions displease them.
Bend over boys: The machines have won!
(Ummm... What I meant to say was it's so nice to have Big Brother looking out for us ) ??
 
 
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